The EDM scene and it’s ‘puppets’… Not only are they producing crappy music that brings the electronic music industry into shame, but their most famous and best-selling producers are just as full of s***t as the EDM industry itself. And I have a ghost producers list to prove it!
It’s been years now that we have to endure the rise of pseudo-music producers with their redundant big room sounds and other ear damaging bass drops.
In addition to damaging our ears and brains, they even got the guts to lie to their fans! Enough is enough!
When I see people like Like Dimitri Vegas and Like Mike on the number 1 position of DJ Mag’s top 100 of 2015 and that the top 10 exists essentially of pseudo producers that have never written a track of their lives, it just makes me want to throw up…
These people that are considered the best DJ’s in the world don’t even produce their own crap! ‘You gotta be kidding me!’
I think it’s clear that I am using EDM in the pejorative sense since they forced us to accept this term to design the most awful music that has ever been generated by mankind.
Long gone is the time when EDM stood for Electronic Dance Music … now it’s just a term to design Electronic Music’s most unrespected and hated genre in the electronic music scene.
I am not trying to be a Major Music Snob here but people that listen to EDM clearly have never listened to quality electronic music before.
Maybe they don’t care about the music or they are too wasted to even make a difference… anyways, the reasons why someone would listen to EDM go way beyond my understanding.
The fact is that the industry has pushed it so hard to make you believe that it’s crap is good that some people even started to believe it…
Anyways, before my emotions and hatred towards EDM take over, let’s get back to the real subject here…
Before we dig deeper into the world of ghost producing, let me explain to you what ghost producing is.
It’s pretty simple. ‘Artists’ use known or unknown producers to make their tracks and they get all the credit for it while the real artists only get a financial compensation for their work ( sometimes less than 100 $!) but are never mentioned in any way to have even participated in the making of that track.
An unethical marketing strategy that worked quite well before a Ghost producers list has been tweeted by Mat Zo (and almost cost him his career!).
The list revealed some of the biggest names in the music industry such as David Guetta and Steve Aoki.
The revelation of Ghost producing created a snowball effect the electronic music scene and more names have been revealed since. Most of them being the best paid Star Dj’s in the world.
Now, what really hits me is that the ones using ghost producers are just the ones selling the most ‘easy’ music to make…
How can you claim to be 1 of the world’s best-paid DJ’s if you are not even capable of creating a beat or a melody in a DAW?
Ok, DJ-ing and producing are two separate things but where is the passion for music if you are not even responsible for the s****t you are selling us?!
So without further ado, let me present you the list of EDM puppets that have been lying to us for too long. (I am sure this is only a fraction of what’s really happening there but it’s a start)
David Guetta: Joachim Garraud
Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike, DVBBS, Danny Avila, Quintino: Maarten Vorwerk
Tiesto: Dennis Waakop Reijers and team
Diplo, Major Lazer: Derrek Allen
Armin Van Buuren: Benno De Goeij
Steve Aoki: Justin bates
Benny Benassi: Alessandro Benassi
Quintino: Laidback Luke
R3HAB: Fabian Lenssen
Quintino, Sander Kleinenberg, Marc Benjamin: Thomas Helsloot
Borgeous, DVBBS, Carnage: Niles Hollowell-Dhar ( KSHMR)
And the list will probably grow…
When DJ Mag asked producers to give their opinion about ghost production, 67% of the winners said they had no problem with it.
Funny thing is that most of them are the same ones that use ghost producers, so no wonder they don’t have a problem with it … but none of them confessed, though.
Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike #1:
“There seems to be a lot of confusion around the topic. Sometimes artists get help in mixing, songwriting or additional production; it’s not exclusive to electronic music or any other genre for that matter. Ultimately, if that extra pair of hands makes the final sound of the record better, then it’s in everybody’s best interest to go down that avenue. But what’s important is clarity around how that collaboration works, and everybody involved properly credited and paid for their efforts.”
David Guetta #6:
“There’s a big difference between having ‘ghost producers’ or working as a team. It’s totally cool to work as a team and everyone should be credited. And paid. Bit like being in a band.”
Steve Aoki #10:
“I don’t really have a problem with it so much…”
This revelation hasn’t been bad for everyone because some Ghost producers could finally express themselves openly about it.
Ghost producing platforms like Houseoftracks.com and Ghostproducer.nl even gained in popularity.
Recently, Maarten Vorwerk, the ghost producer behind Dimitri Vegas and Like Mike’s hit tracks has written a book about music production tips. Small revenge I’d like to say….
Did you ever hear of the guy? Probably not! He is the mastermind behind some of the bestselling Beatport singles since 2011 and has never left the charts since.
Others are starting to give interviews and it became clear that Ghost Producing has been around for a LONG time and that most people don’t even seem to care.
An argument that some list in the debate around Ghost producing is that Ghost Producing exists outside EDM.
Artists like Britney Spears, Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga have never written a song of their lives. Ok, I get it but we don’t ask them to do so…
Isn’t that a false debate?
Those people are ‘entertainers of the pop industry’. Everybody knows how it works there and only a few pop artists are capable of writing, signing and producing at the same time.
You will never ask them to master a song would you? Why would we even ask them to even do so?
If you read some interviews you will learn that most of the Ghost producers never produced Dubstep, Techno, Minimal or Electronica because that would be much too complex to do and they just never are asked to… What a surprise!
Let me make things clear. I have nothing against the people that are actually doing the Ghost producing.
I mean, I could easily be a Ghost producer for someone if they asked.
Some people don’t like to be in the spotlight and have a real passion for the creating music without wanting to become a Super Star Dj/ Producer.
Another thing is that some people are great at composing but suck at mixing and mastering. In that case, it is ok to call for someone to master the song for you as long as it is only a phase of the process, that’s just fine.
What makes me so angry are the lies that they are selling us! Where is the time when the Electronic Music scene still meant something?!
Not only do I hate the commercializing of EDM and the bad name EDM has given to the Electronic Music Scene but it also destroyed our underground nucleus of sincerity and the real passion for music that our little scene had before they destroyed it with their ‘Big Money making machines and other crap’
I can already see some of you frown their eyebrows. Do You disagree with what I said? that’s OK!
I’d like to hear your opinion on Ghost producing!
If you have something to add ( maybe a name or 2 to add to my Ghost producers list )
Or you are Ghost Producer yourself and you think I am telling crap,…
Or you like David Guetta and you feel like you should support him…?!
Feel free to open a discussion or debate in the comment section or in my forum
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This week I decided to dedicate my Artist of the week page to French DJ/producer Worakls.
Worakls is probably one of the few producers capable of bringing real emotions into electronic music and deliver an instant ‘goosebump’ effect in all his productions.
With sophisticated beats and powerful melodies, his style is difficult to define .
It can be categorized into melodic minimal techno but has a lot of deep house influences as well and his ability to bring together different sounds like classical, violin, percussions,…make him one of the most ‘complete’ artists of his generation.
Kevin Rodrigues was born in 1988 and has grown in Paris in a family with musical background. He started to play the piano at the age of 3 and in his teens he experimented with different styles like Rock, Bossa Nova but turned exclusively to electronic music at the age of 18.
He has been quoted as the best newcomer into the minimal techno scene in 2009 and it is his encounter with Eric Prydz that lead him into becoming a DJ.
He created the label Hungry Music with his friend N’To which who he collaborated on different tracks. The most famous probably being ‘Bleu’. The were joined by Joachim Pastor later on and the trio started to develop several live performances through projects like ‘Worakls Band’, ‘N’To live perc’ or ‘Hungry band’ with the participation of artists and live instruments like the violin, guitar and percs.
The reason why I choose to dedicate my post to Worakls is not only because he is one of the artists that I respect the most but also because he released a song ‘La Parisienne’ as a tribute to the victims of the attacks in Paris.
I wanted to contribute in some way and the only way I can do so is by creating or sharing ART….
The song is absolutely mind blowing and can be downloaded for free. It is a beautiful tribute to all those who vanished too soon…
Download ‘ La Parisienne’ for free here
Bleu 2015 (Le rythme abstrait by Raphaël Marionneau, Vol. 2)
Adagio For Square 2015
Flocon De Neige 2014 (Coco Beach Ibiza, Vol. 3 – 10TH Anniversary (Compiled by Paul Lomax
Cerisier Blanc 2015
Question Réponse 2015
Good Night My Love 2014 (Issaya Siamese Club, Vol. 2 by Ravin)
I Forgot My Last Night 2014
Et la pluie tomba 2013 (Soleil de plomb)
Siehst Du nicht 2013
Metaphore 2012 ( Chroniques variees EP)
Insolence 2012 (Chroniques Variees EP)
Souvenir 2012 (Chroniques Variees EP)
004 2012 (Jane)
Roadtrip Ep 2010
Dark Issues 2010
Street Ep 2010 ( Dark issues, Street)
Pain Forest 2010
Eibrab 2009 (All Night Long!)
Next Idea 2010
When The Birds Go In The Wrong Way 2010
Germany 2010 (Roadtrip Ep)
Deeply infected 2009 (Deeply Infected EP)
Keep my Lips 2009
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Children of the electronic revolution is an electronic music website dedicated to electronic music producers but first of all dedicated to music!
Discover the best music and top electronic music producers of the moment in this new rubric Artist of the week.
To introduce our artist of the week section I’d like to be a little bit chauvinistic and feminist and introduce you to a young Belgian artist, from my hometown Ghent, who’s notoriety is growing in the Techno scene.
Raving George alias Charlotte De Witte is a 23 year old DJ/Producer born and raised in Ghent (Belgium) . Known for several years Ghent’s Techno scene, she caught the attention on international level with her remix of an other upcoming rising star Oscar and the Wolf’ ‘You’re mine’.
She discovered her passion for techno as a teenager , frequenting the most avant-garde underground clubs of the belgian electro scene. She started to mix herself when she was 17 and soon gained notoriety. Her dark, melancholic techno sets were respected in the scene it didn’t took her long to catch the ears of professionals and to get the mainstage in festivals such as Pukkelpop and Tomorrowland.
Lat update is that Charlotte De Witte killed Raving George… No, actually she decided to continue with her real name (Charlotte De Witte). She had choosen the name Raving George at fist because she didn’t want people to know she was a girl and to avoid clichés.
”Raving George is no more..
I started with the masculine name “Raving George” because I didn’t want people to book me because I am a woman, I wanted to put the emphasis on what mattered most to me: the music.
By picking Raving George as an artist name, I had the feeling that I avoided cliché thinking in people’s minds. Or at least, that’s what I was trying to accomplish.
Today I’m in an other place. I know where I’m going and most importantly, I know where I want to be. So I decided to continue this adventure under my real name: Charlotte de Witte.
I honestly believe this is the right decision to make and I can only hope I can still count on your love and support, which I’m very grateful for.
It’s time to stop hiding. This is who I am.”
(Credits go to Charlotte : Taken from Charlotte De Witte’s FB Page)
Or read article on the STUBRU website ( Dutch)
In a recent interview with Resident Advisor she explained :
“I love the darkness you find in electronic music,” explains de Witte, “especially within Techno. I find melancholic music so much more interesting and dark sounding Techno really attracts me. When I look at the main stages of some of the world’s most famous festivals and I see everyone dancing to this commercial, happy music, I don’t really understand it.”
“Dark music contains much more emotion. When I’m DJ’ing I want to try and touch the crowd and tell a story with the music. Of course I want them to party, get loose and have fun but at the same time I want them to remember the music long after the lights go up.”
Her mixing talents not having to be proved anymore, she could concentrate on producing tracks herself. She produces music that might be more accessible to a wide audience, although she admits herself that her preferences go to techno when she goes to clubs, she discovered a softer side of herself in producing and likes to remix different genres.
Her collaboration with Oscar and the Wolf ‘ in ‘ You’re mine’ was released on international level and was the starting point of an international career. She also performed at several occasions on Studio Brussel in the ‘Switch Playground’ show and has a residency at Fuse Brussels.
Future looks bright for Charlotte and she a true artist that deserves to be discovered!
You’re Mine EP (Pias Recordings / Spinnin’ Deep – 2015)
JoeFarr – Confide (Raving George Remix)(Origami Sound – 2014)
Monodon Monoceros EP (Bad Life – 2014)
Obverse EP (Crux Records – 2013)
BRNS-Void( Raving George remix)
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To celebrate the existence of my website dedicated to electronic music and electronic music production I wanted to post a track that’s a tribute for those who inspired me in the name of my website. because Electronic Music would have never existed if there hadn’t be KRAFTWERK.
I had the opportunity to see their 3D concert lately and believe me , they didn’t get a wrinkle ! The name of my website refers to Kraftwerk’s documentary ‘ The electronic revolution’
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